tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post4841583300862160934..comments2023-05-27T00:06:43.961+09:00Comments on The Preacher and the Skeptic: The Mysterious Case of Adam and EveDoug DeLonghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11885710324806794921noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-20835302519799628192011-09-29T06:37:16.688+09:002011-09-29T06:37:16.688+09:00"Evolutionists: Here are the EVIDENCES, what ..."Evolutionists: Here are the EVIDENCES, what Conclusions can we get from them?"<br /><br />Just as a counter-point, consider the following.<br /><br />1. Assuming that God is a being external to the physical universe, then by definition, it is impossible to measure him in any meaningful/scientific way.<br /><br />2. Given that the existence of God can't really be proved scientifically, there is no evidence to support the existence of God, one way or the other.<br /><br />3. Hence, evolution* still starts with a conclusion. That God must not exist, therefore, how do we explain the existence of life in all the diversity that we see?<br /><br />In the end, creationists and evolutionist must both accepts some set of axioms upon which we build our understanding of the world. Creationists believe God always existed, evolutionists believe space/time/matter always existed. Order (as in the building block of life as we know it) from an intelligent mind is a much easier axiom to accept in my opinion, than the alternative.<br /><br />* Here I'm going beyond the strict definition of biodiversity via natural selection, to the more generally accepted theories for the origin of life to begin with. I think you'll find that most creationist believe in biodiversity via natural selection. We aren't arguing about that. We're arguing about the ultimate origin of life, the laws of nature, and the design/patterns we see in the physical universe.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11213112075138656823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-54800404600213841442011-09-29T06:25:29.298+09:002011-09-29T06:25:29.298+09:00Creationists:
Here are the Conclusions from the B...Creationists: <br />Here are the Conclusions from the Bible, what EVIDENCES can we use to prove them?<br /><br />Evolutionists:<br />Here are the EVIDENCES, what Conclusions can we get from them?<br /><br /><br />NOW SEE WHO'S THE BIASED IDIOT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-2665713146121005502009-09-12T22:16:38.324+09:002009-09-12T22:16:38.324+09:00You wrote: "When you say evolution is nothing...You wrote: "When you say evolution is nothing more than a myth perpetrated by the secular scientific community," that kinda blows my mind and reinforces my belief that there really is no way to reconcile science and religion."<br /><br />In my blog (bloganders.blogspot.com ;left menu) I have an article that proves the existence of an Intelligent Creator and His purpose of humankind using formal logic (i.e. a rational proof) and science.<br />There is one religion, which don't contradict science.<br />Anders BranderudAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08418091459248577266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-19257167520463448352009-09-07T13:00:01.487+09:002009-09-07T13:00:01.487+09:00God's creation was perfect.
But maybe there wa...God's creation was perfect.<br />But maybe there was potential for sin? Let me expand on that. God gave man a choice, because if there was no potential or possible way to rebel then man really didn't have a choice in this whole matter did he?<br /><br />Also, when did Satan fall/rebel? Is there anything in the Bible pointing to a specific time? Is it possible that the rebellion happened after creation?Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11213112075138656823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-61261495797625590912009-09-07T11:55:09.628+09:002009-09-07T11:55:09.628+09:00Well Paul
If Sin was already there then how could...Well Paul<br /><br />If Sin was already there then how could the Creation be perfect? In other words the garden was imperfect already. The world Adam and Eve was in, was already tainted. Tell me something, if you are a rational human being, how do you make this sheit work?Tit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-81756494153509219112009-09-05T23:20:59.417+09:002009-09-05T23:20:59.417+09:00No, Christians who know their Bible know that sin ...No, Christians who know their Bible know that sin was already there. Satan and his minions had already sinned. By eating the fruit, Adam allowed that evil influence to enter into the good creation.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12163876007786334757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-38527816955180823462009-09-05T15:52:20.379+09:002009-09-05T15:52:20.379+09:00Interestingly enough Christians fail to realize Si...Interestingly enough Christians fail to realize Sin was already in the garden. It wasnt Adam that started it off. Afterall if it wasnt how do you explain the snake? So much for perfectionTit for Tathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454132514796693591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-71379584651811490462009-09-01T01:53:23.584+09:002009-09-01T01:53:23.584+09:00Proof is a social construct.
You can not prove a p...Proof is a social construct.<br />You can not prove a proof correct.<br /><br />I think you can say the same about science. Deduction is fallible, we are unable to account for everything, we have limited intellects.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11213112075138656823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4457462934916022222.post-50628493313365652422009-08-31T05:40:19.071+09:002009-08-31T05:40:19.071+09:00From his last comments, I can see that the skeptic...From his last comments, I can see that the skeptic is not a scientist. My father was a biologist with a PhD.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12163876007786334757noreply@blogger.com